Journal Entry - 1 Jun 2009

[DeShock]

actually i kinda agree with sda. most of what is left of the FA community are die hard FA2ers. mostly because the FA2 Dev team actually supports them and they don't keep progress secret even though they are much further from release (Donny tells me they have pushed their release date even further. 1 to 2 years). the FA:S fan base is almost non existent.

just calling it as i see it.

Yeah, regular updates with lots of screen shots and lots of information, a developers journal section with more updates, and Alpha testers journals section all clearly indicates a super secretive mod development team. Not to mention a maps section, a weapons sections, and media section all with lots more information and screen shots. You been hanging with DJDon lately or something?

And a non exitant fan base. I see lots of comments on moddb about people can't wait for the release, the Facebook fan page with almost 100 fans it hasn't even been around all that long and this posted there today

"Firearms: Source
Almost there...Update will be today or tomorrow..I hope. If it makes you feel any better, we have all been on overdrive the past week.

Plus this forums has over 1,000 members with 66 of those visiting in the last 24 hours and 309 visitors in the last 24 hours. Not bad for a non existent fan base.

[sda]

believe me I hope Im wrong FA and the community was everything I loved about FPS and online gaming

[ANCIENT_SUMERIAN]

Don't keep progress secret? What mod are you talking about? They have an update about twice a year.

i'm not talking about just the updates. they don't care if people know things.



oh and DeShock, there are a total of 1,079 members on these forums, but there are only 156 active members.

Firearms: Source Statistics
Threads: 9,606, Posts: 217,918, Members: 1,079, Active Members: 156

there has also been quite a few random people that i have seen in the welcome forums that have not even posted or even been online.


this is the last post i make about this subject. i don't want to start an argument.

Edit: oh and by the way when it says how many visitors there have been you are forgetting something. every time one of us goes to the forums to log in it views us as a visitor. when we log in it still thinks that some random visitor had come by.

[DysPatch]

Yeah, regular updates with lots of screen shots and lots of information, a developers journal section with more updates, and Alpha testers journals section all clearly indicates a super secretive mod development team. Not to mention a maps section, a weapons sections, and media section all with lots more information and screen shots. You been hanging with DJDon lately or something?

And a non exitant fan base. I see lots of comments on moddb about people can't wait for the release, the Facebook fan page with almost 100 fans it hasn't even been around all that long and this posted there today
Plus this forums has over 1,000 members with 66 of those visiting in the last 24 hours and 309 visitors in the last 24 hours. Not bad for a non existent fan base.

thank you.

[Isis]

actually i kinda agree with sda. most of what is left of the FA community are die hard FA2ers. mostly because the FA2 Dev team actually supports them and they don't keep progress secret even though they are much further from release (Donny tells me they have pushed their release date even further. 1 to 2 years). the FA:S fan base is almost non existent.

Can't tell if joking :|

oh and DeShock, there are a total of 1,079 members on these forums, but there are only 156 active members.

I would assume that the folks at OTF Nation would be more inclined to play FAS than FA2. As they all ready have a built up community there, there is little reason for them to come here to just "talk".

[Pork Fried Squirrel]

A_S, either way, you know better than to bring up 'that other mod' as it always leads to the same thing. If you're that skeptical, then maybe you should rethink your role as a tester? And since when do people listen to don about these things?

[StandingCow]

Ok all, lets get this back on track... no more discussion about that "other mod".

[sda]

good Idea get me some news for me quant brethren

[Sterling Morrison]

Basing assumptions of player base of forum membership of a mod that hasn't even been released yet is pretty bad. I'd wager a guess that most of the people here were former Firearms players anyway. There's a whole new generation of people playing HL2 mods who don't know what Firearms even was, so this game is going to be new to a whole lot of people. Which ties in with my other post about how it is really great that the team are taking their time with the mod to make it as fine tuned as possible for release.

As an example I'll point out the WII mod (wow really we needed another WWII game and a mod at that? Whoulda thunk), Resistance & Liberation; they have their mod out in alpha form for people to play. I played it like 6 or so months ago, I didn't like it, it was clearly unfinished and didn't "feel" right. Essentially I was left with a bad taste in my mouth and thus no desire to actually go back and try the game again. Of course not everybody is like me, but I'd guess a substantial number of people wouldn't go back either.

First impressions are important; stop complaining, etc.

[sda]

actually I look at it this way. It has to fun with fun people to play with. Updated quickly if needed. Polish can happen in fast and meaningful updates. I worry that by the time its released the whole hl2 thing mebe on the downside. Again this is not complaining I just want success for the mod

[Shinobi]

have never bitched about release and I want a good product also. But, you guys are losing interest in the non dedicated areas . A lot of former FA players are laughin at me sayin its never actually gonna be released. I tell them be patient but I'm not so sure they are gonna give it much of a chance at this point. I really do hope I'm wrong

There's a ton of people laughing at me saying the same thing too.

dont worry when you eventually prove them wrong with a niceass FAS release you can rub it in their face all you want

[Shinobi]

good Idea get me some news for me quant brethren

trust me, you have quant bretheren who know much more than you about the progress of the mod

[Hitman]

Nice update boss man. Can we please have the new .dlls now? I'm intrigued.

There are still some bugs we need to get ironed out.

[sda]

yeah I know Scott keeps me up to date as much as he can. But there are old school fluffies and quants that just think Im blowin smoke up theyre ass

[djdon917]

alot of FA players has Left FA is Dead 99.9% maybe 10 Plays The most
they all Lost interest